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PostYou have posted in this forum: Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:35 am   Post subject:  Cataclysm - Priest PREVIEW Back to top 

lol at "Leap of Faith"

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24038432151&sid=1

Quote: › In World of Warcraft: Cataclysm, we'll be making lots of changes and additions to class talents and abilities across the board. In this preview, you'll get an early look at some of the changes in store for the priest class, including a rundown of some of the new spells, abilities, and talents, as well as an overview of how the new Mastery system will work with the different talent specs.

New Priest Spells

Heal (available at level 16): While priests already have a spell called Heal, the existing version becomes obsolete at higher levels, which is something we intend to change in Cataclysm. Introduced at a low level, the "new" Heal spell will functionally work much like a down-ranked Greater Heal did in the past, adding more granularity to your direct-healing arsenal. If you need to heal someone a moderate amount and efficiency is an issue (making Flash Heal the incorrect spell for the job), then Heal is what you want to use. Heal is intended to be the priest's go-to direct-healing spell unless they need something bigger (Greater Heal) or faster (Flash Heal). We will be following a similar philosophy with all the healing classes.

Mind Spike (level 81): Deals Shadowfrost damage and puts a debuff on the target that improves subsequent Mind Spike damage. The intent of Mind Spike is to fill a niche missing in Shadow DPS, though it may be occasionally useful for healers as well. Mind Spike provides a quick nuke to use in situations where the priest doesn't have time to set up the normal rotation, such as when adds are dying too fast or you have to swap targets a lot. Spamming Mind Spike will do about as much damage as casting Mind Flay on a target afflicted with Shadow Word: Pain. The idea behind the debuff is that when you cast Mind Spike, we expect you to cast a lot of them; we don't intend you to fit it into an already full Shadow rotation. It also provides Shadow with a spell to cast when locked out of the Shadow school. (School lockouts will no longer affect both schools for multi-school spells.) 1.5-second cast. 30-yard range. No cooldown.

Inner Will (level 83): Increases movement speed by 12% and reduces the mana cost of instant-cast spells by 10%. This buff will be exclusive with Inner Fire, meaning you can't have both up at once. Inner Fire provides a spell power and Armor buff; Inner Will should be useful on a more situational basis.

Leap of Faith (level 85): Pull a party or raid member to your location. Leap of Faith (or "Life Grip") is intended to give priests a tool to help rescue fellow players who have pulled aggro, are being focused on in PvP, or just can't seem to get out of the fire in time. Instant. 30-yard range. 45-second cooldown.

Changes to Abilities and Mechanics

In addition to introducing new spells, we're planning to make changes to some of the other abilities and mechanics you're familiar with. This list and the summary of talent changes below it are by no means comprehensive, but they should give you a good sense of what we intend for each spec.

All HoTs and DoTs will benefit from Haste and Crit innately. Hasted HoTs and DoTs will not have a shorter duration, just a shorter period in between ticks (meaning they will gain extra ticks to fill in the duration as appropriate).

We want to bring back Shadow Word: Death as an "execute" -- something you do when the target is at 25% health.

While we want to keep the priest's role as a well-rounded healer, we also want to make sure the class is a viable tank healer, which is something priests moved away from a little in Wrath of the Lich King. Greater Heal will probably be the tank-healing spell of choice, though we've also discussed giving Discipline a second shield so that they have a small shield to cast on lots of different targets, and a big, more expensive shield to cast on a tank or anyone else taking a ton of damage.

Divine Spirit and Prayer of Spirit will be removed from the game. As Spirit will be the primary mana-regeneration stat, we don't want it to vary as much between solo, small group, and raid play. Blessing of Kings and Mark of the Wild will not boost Spirit either.

Mana will be a bigger consideration for all healers. We aren't trying to make healing more painful; we're trying to make it more fun. When the cost of a spell isn't an issue, then casting the right spell for the job is less of an issue because you might as well just use your most powerful spell all of the time. We are, however, getting rid of the five-second rule, because we don't want to encourage standing around doing nothing. We're also going to cut back on the benefits of buffs such as Replenishment so priests (and all healers) don't feel as penalized when those buffs aren't available.

New Talents and Talent Changes

We want to improve Discipline's single-target healing capacity. One key is to make sure shielding isn't always a more attractive option than healing.

We want to improve Holy for PvP healing. One way to do this is to make sure that Heal's throughput is similar between both specs.

We want to improve Shadow for short fights and reduce its susceptibility to school lockouts.

Discipline will finally be getting Power Word: Barrier as a talented ability. Think of it like a group Power Word: Shield.

We want to make Holy a little bit more interesting to play. One new talent will push the Holy priest into an improved healing state when he or she casts Prayer of Healing, Heal, or Renew three times in a row. The empowered state varies depending on the heals cast.

Since the Shadow tree has a lot of passive damage-boosting abilities -- something we're trying to avoid in Cataclysm -- we will need to replace several of the tree's talents. One idea is to play off of the new Shadow Orbs mechanic (see Mastery section below), possibly allowing you to consume an orb to increase damage from Mind Blast or reduce Mind Spike's cast time.

Misery will no longer affect spell Hit chance. We want players to be able to gear themselves around a Hit cap that isn't variable depending on group composition.

Mastery Passive Talent Tree Bonuses

Discipline
Healing
Meditation
Absorption

Holy
Healing
Meditation
Radiance

Shadow
Spell damage
Spell Crit
Shadow Orbs

Absorption: Improves the strength of shields such as Power Word: Shield, Divine Aegis, and Power Word: Barrier.

Radiance: Your direct heals add a small heal-over-time component to the target.

Shadow Orbs: Casting spells grants a chance for Shadow Orbs to be created that fly around you and increase your shadow damage. This will help lower-level characters feel more like "Shadow priests" before they obtain Shadowform.

We hope you enjoyed this preview, and we're looking forward to hearing your initial thoughts and feedback on these additions and changes. Please keep in mind that this information represents a work in progress and is subject to change as development on Cataclysm continues.


Cataclysm Stat & System Changes: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23425636414&sid=1

Mastery System Preview: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23710210871&sid=1

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:52 am   Post subject:  Re: Cataclysm - Priest PREVIEW Back to top 

also

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24038432151&sid=1&pageNo=15

Quote: › A few quick clarifications:

Neither Inner Fire nor Inner Will has charges. The decision is on which armor you want up at the time.

Preventing dot clipping is something we want to do in general. It obviously benefits Shadow priests just as much as warlocks.

The idea behind Mind Spike is that you can't always settle into your normal, and high-ramp up rotation. It's also useful when you have to move or get school locked.

The closest analogue to PW:B is the DK Anti-Magic Zone, but it has some important differences, such as a way to counter it in PvP (since it absorbs all damage, not just magical damage).

The idea behind the Holy "cast three in a row" talent (it's called "Chakra") is that we've always positioned Holy as a versatile healer. This talent lets you shift into different modes. If you need to be a tank healer, cast three single target heals and your single-target healing is now better. Cast three area heals, and you can be a temporarily specialized group healer. We're going to try to play this mechanic up with a cool UI to try to get that "I'm almost in the zone" feel. We'll let it apply to as many types of spells as we can, perhaps even Smite for those times when nobody's taking damage.

We pulled Misery because we are pulling every group benefit that improves hit. It's annoying to have to swap your gear in and out depending on who shows up for your group. In general we're going to push even harder in Cataclysm for bringing people you like to play with, not bringing people who have awesome buffs. The answer to almost every question of "But why would they bring me?" should be "Because you know what the hell you're doing."

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:13 am   Post subject:  Re: Cataclysm - Priest PREVIEW Back to top 

meh

I am neither disappoint or excite

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:55 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

To be honest without knowing how all the trees are being changed (and they did say they were revisiting ALL talents) it's going to be difficult to make any kind of informed decision on this stuff.


... "Oh look mommy, that priest has swirly balls" Very Happy

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:14 am   Post subject:  Re: Cataclysm - Priest PREVIEW Back to top 

Yeah, i'm certainly waiting on the full reveal to see how it all comes together. There was no major overhaul for the Shadow tree though, i'm not sure if that's a good or a bad thing. By changing haste on DoTs they've actually made the rotation a lot more stable and potentially easier, now we WANT to clip dots on the last tick. That should be a natural DPS increase regardless.

I'd like to see Mind Spike be instant cast so it can be used on the move and possibly have the debuff be consumed by Mind Blast for a larger hit. This would mean using it as part of the rotation when moving and using mindflay for larger dps / refreshing dots. I fully expect a lot of numbers to be rebalanced around this. Mindflay is only as great as it is now due to it being reduced to a 1.8s channel (down from 3) due of inflated haste and tier bonuses.

I'd like to thing shadow balls (of steel) could function like soulshards lite, that could be interesting. Straight up damage increase with an RNG ramp up does not sound interesting.

Holy and disc has some fun things, Chakra sounds a bit clunky at the moment so i'd expect that to be changed and refined during the beta. Equally Life Grip has so much situational fun (griefing?) opportunities I really hope it makes it into live as-is. Im sure we can all think of situations in ICC where it'd be so useful!

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:25 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

To me Chakra sounded pretty neat tbh.

Cast 3 AoE heals in a row and you're AoE healing suddenly got buffed. Cast 3 single target big heals on a tank and your tank healing just improved. They've even mentioned it could be used with smite!

I do get the feeling that the Blizz developers were made to go play a few of the other MMO's and told to not be shy about copying some of the better features they find. Can see quite a bit of LotRO and WAR influences in the stuff released so far.

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:47 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

Bunches wrote (View Post): ›
To me Chakra sounded pretty neat tbh.

Cast 3 AoE heals in a row and you're AoE healing suddenly got buffed. Cast 3 single target big heals on a tank and your tank healing just improved. They've even mentioned it could be used with smite!


Casting 2 PoH and a CoH to get into AOE healing mode is clunky, this then gets disrupted when you cast a Flash Heal on 1 person and it resets. It has the same flaws as the Grace talent in Disc. It's a nice idea but i think it will undergo quite a bit of change.

The point about borrowing from othe MMOs is spot on, this isn't a bad thing either.

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:34 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

Quote: › The point about borrowing from othe MMOs is spot on, this isn't a bad thing either.
Couldn't agree more though unfortunately I can't see how they'd get the Warden style of play from LotRO into one of the WoW classes ... I rather like the way they work Smile

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